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Revisiting UI and UX ...again!
G8B4Life:
--- Quote from: Alan on June 26, 2020, 04:02:50 PM ---I am always baffled when I see icons and text combined. Isn't the whole purpose of an icon to make text unnecessary?
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Not really, think of everyday stuff you see and you'll see a lot have both, a pictogram and text. Two very quick examples I can think of are an exit sign and a fire extinguisher sign; both have the pictogram and text. Road signs too have many cases with a pictogram and text. While there are very good reasons in the real world for combining a pictogram with text I kind of think of of it this way, the pictogram is the indicator of the function (whether to exit a building or to turn on the front light of your locomotive) and the text is the conformation of the function. With RailPro because you can make any button do anything regardless of the pictogram chosen you need to have the text as well.
There is an issue with having text only buttons if the text is user entered like the button text is now as certain function buttons actually control logic within the controller. It's not insurmountable though. I'll have to mock up a "just text" version of the function buttons.
--- Quote from: nodcc4me on June 26, 2020, 06:38:19 PM ---Some time ago, Tim or someone else posted a nice chart of all the RP icons along with their descriptions. There's no way I would remember what they all stand for without descriptions. :o
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Yep, that was me, and as usual got the evil stare from 10,000 miles away for the effort. I haven't looked at that guide in ages but I think I still don't know what all the buttons are supposed to be, and I still haven't seen an official buttons guide from RE yet.
--- Quote from: ON28 on June 27, 2020, 12:26:58 AM ---and performance monitors (module temp-voltage-current)/throttle on same page.
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That information is just one button press away on the control locomotive screen so I'm unsure if your just unaware that you can access it or if your wanting it on the same screen as as the main controlling screen. Given the way that info is presented I don't think you could fit all that on the controlling screen. If the controller was able to report those monitors in numbers and not graphs then it could be possible, but at the expense of what on the controlling screen? There is only an finite amount of space available.
- Tim
ON28:
--- Quote from: G8B4Life on June 27, 2020, 09:24:31 AM ---
--- Quote from: Alan on June 26, 2020, 04:02:50 PM ---I am always baffled when I see icons and text combined. Isn't the whole purpose of an icon to make text unnecessary?
--- End quote ---
Not really, think of everyday stuff you see and you'll see a lot have both, a pictogram and text. Two very quick examples I can think of are an exit sign and a fire extinguisher sign; both have the pictogram and text. Road signs too have many cases with a pictogram and text. While there are very good reasons in the real world for combining a pictogram with text I kind of think of of it this way, the pictogram is the indicator of the function (whether to exit a building or to turn on the front light of your locomotive) and the text is the conformation of the function. With RailPro because you can make any button do anything regardless of the pictogram chosen you need to have the text as well.
There is an issue with having text only buttons if the text is user entered like the button text is now as certain function buttons actually control logic within the controller. It's not insurmountable though. I'll have to mock up a "just text" version of the function buttons.
--- Quote from: nodcc4me on June 26, 2020, 06:38:19 PM ---Some time ago, Tim or someone else posted a nice chart of all the RP icons along with their descriptions. There's no way I would remember what they all stand for without descriptions. :o
--- End quote ---
Yep, that was me, and as usual got the evil stare from 10,000 miles away for the effort. I haven't looked at that guide in ages but I think I still don't know what all the buttons are supposed to be, and I still haven't seen an official buttons guide from RE yet.
--- Quote from: ON28 on June 27, 2020, 12:26:58 AM ---and performance monitors (module temp-voltage-current)/throttle on same page.
--- End quote ---
That information is just one button press away on the control locomotive screen so I'm unsure if your just unaware that you can access it or if your wanting it on the same screen as as the main controlling screen. Given the way that info is presented I don't think you could fit all that on the controlling screen. If the controller was able to report those monitors in numbers and not graphs then it could be possible, but at the expense of what on the controlling screen? There is only an finite amount of space available.
- Tim
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It would be helpful to see the throttle value and performance values on one screen. Kind of like in the cab of a 1:1 loco. Maybe an amp meter linked to the dynamics/notching, too? We already have the fuel gauge (battery indicator). The mind reels...
fianet:
As to the too much white and GMM6809's black background with 2px outline option, why not take the iphone approach and have light and dark with option of light until sunset! Both have a use depending on the light you are using it in. ::) 8)
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