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Traylor:
Greetings all,
I’ve been on the forum now for awhile now but have never posted.
I didn’t want my first one to sound negative but I’m about at my wits end here!
I’ve had my Railpro system for over three years now but have yet to successfully run two locos together, which was the main reason for the purchase.
Right out of the box there were issues with the handheld controller which went out to Ring for warranty repairs the first year.

About a year later I got one loco going but had problems with a second. Thinking it was the loco I reinstalled the module (both LM-3S) in another loco which promptly blew the lights out. Tried a third loco, nothing at all but pretty much destroyed the loco during installation and removal. (My bad)
I sent the module to a friend who tried everything he could to revive it but couldn’t even detect it if I recall correctly.
I attempted to send it back to Ring but was told to try several things of which none were successful.
That module is now gone, perhaps recycled into a nice cellphone by now.  :)

So fast forward now to the zombie apocalypse going on, I decided to dig out the one loco with a module in it and give it a run to show some friends via the iPad.
I hit the start engine button and got more static than engine sounds. Thinking the speaker was pooched or had picked up debris I replaced it with another. No help.
I then tried a brand new out of the package speaker to no avail.
Before I put everything away one more time I thought maybe I’d appeal to the masses here for some insight?

I’d really like to give this one more try as I’m into this for well over a G note, which buys a heck of a lot of Loksound decoders as my friends like to point out. LOL
Sorry for being long winded and somewhat gloomy here.
Traylor

G8B4Life:
Welcome Traylor,

I don't think it's just you but there could have been things you did or didn't do that's made RailPro life not a very sweet experience for you. We'll see if we can work any of them out. I'm taking from your post that you only have one loco with an LM in it.


--- Quote from: Traylor on September 17, 2020, 07:29:17 PM ---About a year later I got one loco going but had problems with a second. Thinking it was the loco I reinstalled the module (both LM-3S) in another loco which promptly blew the lights out. Tried a third loco, nothing at all but pretty much destroyed the loco during installation and removal. (My bad)

--- End quote ---

So I read from this you've tried 4 loco's in total:

You had a successful install in one loco (we'll call it Loco A). You did a second install (Loco B) but had problems which you thought were the model so tried the LM from Loco B in third loco Loco C which blew the lights. You then tried that same LM in a forth loco (Loco D which you call the third above) which you got no response at all. Is that correct?

Do you remember what Loco's B, C and D were and how you wired the LM up to them?

What was the problem that you thought was the model for Loco B?

With Loco C, What type of lighting did it have? The LM puts out near track voltage (about 14.6v for the RailPro PWR-56) to the light outputs so grain of wheat / grain of rice type globes and LED's need resistors to prevent them burning out.



--- Quote ---I sent the module to a friend who tried everything he could to revive it but couldn’t even detect it if I recall correctly.
I attempted to send it back to Ring but was told to try several things of which none were successful.

--- End quote ---

You didn't mention if your friend has any RailPro equipment so how did he try to revive / detect it?

It is possible that there was a short when you used it on Loco C and blew the lights that fried the LM but we'll never know now.


--- Quote ---So fast forward now to the zombie apocalypse going on, I decided to dig out the one loco with a module in it and give it a run to show some friends via the iPad.

--- End quote ---

Not sure why your mentioning the iPad. Were you trying to control the loco in DCC mode using the iPad or were your friends watching remotely through your iPad?


--- Quote ---I hit the start engine button and got more static than engine sounds. Thinking the speaker was pooched or had picked up debris I replaced it with another. No help.
I then tried a brand new out of the package speaker to no avail.

--- End quote ---

This sounds like the speaker is being over-driven, which can damage it and/or the LM though if it's just a single speaker install it's hard to imagine this is the reason. You can try reducing the volume and seeing if the "static" goes away. Also check that the connections between the LM and the speaker are good and solid.


--- Quote ---I’d really like to give this one more try as I’m into this for well over a G note, which buys a heck of a lot of Loksound decoders as my friends like to point out. LOL
Sorry for being long winded and somewhat gloomy here.

--- End quote ---

You can have a lot of problems with a heck of a lot of Loksound decoders too if things don't go your way! I'm not trying to sound smug or anything like that but if you had posted way back when you had these issues we may have been able to spare you some of the pain or steer you in the correct direction if we had identified a wrong direction being taken. Of course we may not have been able to either (and may not be able to now) but I'm sure that would still have been better than sitting on it for as long as you have.

We might be able to get a better idea of what's going on if you tell us:

- Whats your power and control setup
- What make and model this one working loco is
- How you installed and hooked up the LM to the loco.

- Tim

Traylor:
Hey Tim!
Yes I could have elaborated a wee bit more.

I’m running a Digitrax system with a power supply putting out the recommended Railpro voltage.
Loco A (LM1) was in a newer Kato SD40-2 with a speaker mount on the bottom, loco B (LM2) was a mid production Kato SD40-2, both had the pin connectors.
Loco B never ran right so I chalked it up to pickup issues. I reinstalled a DCC decoder in it and had no issues however.
Loco C was a proto 2000 SD60 with pin connectors and yes, grain of wheat bulbs (D'oh!) It ran ok with DCC but not the LM. Yes it is quite possible I killed it there...
Come to think of it I also had LM2 in a newer Atlas GP38-2 (loco D?) afterwards that never ran.  Hmmm...

It was at that point I sent LM2 to my friend who runs Railpro for diagnoses but it was un detectable.
I contacted Ring to see if there was a possible reset and if I could send it in but was told to try all the things my friend had done.
That would be about when it hit the recycling bucket. ;)

So having just one LM now it made no sense to keep it in loco A since I wanted to run it with its kin so I pulled it out and mounted it into loco E, a new Kato -9 with a bottom speaker mount. Ran and sounded fine for a little while but when I recently put it back on the rails the new issue (static) showed up.
I also tried a couple different harnesses to eliminate that as a possible defect.
Oh, I guess I mentioned the iPad to say I’m social distancing, no one was with me., didn’t think about that.
Also I’m not a Microsoft fan but I did buy a laptop to download Railpro stuff. Guess that’ll be hitting Kijiji before long. LOL

You’re absolutely right about DCC decoders going wonky too, I have a few dead ones here from over the years.
Well yeah my friend did suggest I post here some time back but as I mentioned I didn’t want to start off like this.
Ok better get going with my day, thanx for the welcome and checking this out!

CPRail:
If Traylor is who I think it is, then I'm the friend with RP that he mentions. I plugged the suspect LM into one of my known working installs and my HC could not detect it. I'm pretty sure I posted to RPUG on it, but I can't recall.

CPRail:
Yup, I did post on this:
https://rpug.pdc.ca/index.php/topic,928.msg7097.html#msg7097

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