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Shunter - Small Loco Prime mover sounds, any one have any?

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Alan:
I get the feeling sounds are to Ring as colors were to the paint company I worked for. Regardless of how many you have the market always wants more. We spent more money on color formulation than we did on all of the R&D labs combined.

Just as Ring may be doing, we tried to walk the fine line of enough new colors to keep the market happy but not so many as to waste formulation time and money which was better spent elsewhere. It is very difficult to say with any certainty that more colors (sounds) will always result in more sales. Existing RP owners for instance. More sounds does not equal more sales so for that crowd Ring's ROI is essentially zero. If you think of it terms of adding new business then I completely understand why Ring isn't busting his tail to publish new sounds. It probably yields little return measured in dollars whereas new products add big dollars.

G8B4Life:
I wish I knew what sounds were to Ring but from a previous exchange I had with him on that subject I think your somewhere in the ball park and unfortunately that mentality is a sure fire way to loose sales. I hear what you say in your comparison with paint, it's the same for me though we do need a lot of variety otherwise our shows would be boring and we wouldn't get business but we have to choose a range we can stock from the huge range available as we can't stock it all.

However we're not talking about people painting houses, roofs, fences, cars etc or lighting up the night sky, we're talking about model railroaders and sound to a model railroader is now in the same category as the correct detail applied off the shelf to a model for a specific railroad. While you are somewhat correct that adding new sounds isn't going to generate more sales from the crowd that already owns the system absolutely the size and quality of your sound library is a major factor in the make or break decision for someone to go with the system in the first place. Every time someone brings up RP on a forum somewhere the variety and quality of the sounds is bought up as a factor. Even right now there's a debate going on over at MRH over wireless control. RP was bought up as usual and sound was bought up as a factor.

Why is LokSound so popular? 1, You can create your own sounds including the prime mover AND share them, and 2, the size of the sound library, which in cases includes multiple versions of the same base prime mover, because the 645E3 in xxx loco sounds different than the 645E3 in yyy loco. Ring couldn't be stuffed when I suggested he be a bit more descriptive with his sound names.

- Tim

Gibs:
Maybe then in the interest of new sales as well as keeping his existing user base happy and possibly create more return sales RE need to think about a modellers tool box/kit being added to the next update to RPA.  It's either that or I start pulling the storage file apart (yes I do know what and where it is) with my hex editor and other code modding tools I have. I've not met a file that I can't mod yet! Just takes a little bit of time is all.

Alan:

--- Quote from: Gibs on May 27, 2021, 08:28:59 AM ---Maybe then in the interest of new sales as well as keeping his existing user base happy and possibly create more return sales RE need to think about a modellers tool box/kit being added to the next update to RPA.

--- End quote ---

There's the million dollar idea. Let the customers roll their own. Analogous to the revolution that occurred in paint with the advent of low cost spectrophotometers.

Gibs:
Not real sure if you taking the piss or you agree with and like the idea, I'm gonna go with the  latter and just feel good about it all. 😆

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