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William Brillinger:

--- Quote ---so how do you tell which way is forwards and which way is backwards for the loco?
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I don't use locomotive images at all (I just use the railway logo, CN BNSF etc for the image) and I have never even thought to care which way is forward or backwards based on the image. For diesels at least, there is a little F on the actual locomotive to denote the front in North America.

Cbrocco:
I guess I'm missing something. The loco image is a functional button. It brings you to your locomotive list. Why do we want to remove this? Resize it maybe but this is the easiest way to  select your loco without going to the home screen.

I also like the image there.
 

William Brillinger:

--- Quote from: Cbrocco on August 12, 2021, 11:27:46 AM ---I guess I'm missing something. The loco image is a functional button. It brings you to your locomotive list. Why do we want to remove this? Resize it maybe but this is the easiest way to  select your loco without going to the home screen.

I also like the image there.

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We don't want to completely remove it, we want the option to have the space reallocated for more functionality.

There is no reason that the loco name/number which would continue to be on the display could not become the loco list button.

Also if we get the running setup options, all moved off to another screen so they cannot accidentally be tapped, the loco list button would logically also move to the new running setup screen.

The big problem is when visiting operators who are not familiar with the HC interface accidentally tap these setup buttons, like the loco list or unlink buttons, they end up in places they have no idea how to get out of or how they got there, and potentially with their consist broken or worse yet as a runaway because they don't know how to navigate back quickly enough to avoid an accident.

We are proposing that there be a basic mode that is basically the way it is now but with a way to lockout accidental presses of setup options, and an advanced mode where we can have more functions on the screen. Most larger layout operators do not desire or need the loco image. They would prefer more function buttons in that space.

Cbrocco:

--- Quote from: William Brillinger on August 12, 2021, 11:54:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Cbrocco on August 12, 2021, 11:27:46 AM ---I guess I'm missing something. The loco image is a functional button. It brings you to your locomotive list. Why do we want to remove this? Resize it maybe but this is the easiest way to  select your loco without going to the home screen.

I also like the image there.

--- End quote ---

We don't want to completely remove it, we want the option to have the space reallocated for more functionality.

There is no reason that the loco name/number which would continue to be on the display could not become the loco list button.

Also if we get the running setup options, all moved off to another screen so they cannot accidentally be tapped, the loco list button would logically also move to the new running setup screen.

The big problem is when visiting operators who are not familiar with the HC interface accidentally tap these setup buttons, like the loco list or unlink buttons, they end up in places they have no idea how to get out of or how they got there, and potentially with their consist broken or worse yet as a runaway because they don't know how to navigate back quickly enough to avoid an accident.

We are proposing that there be a basic mode that is basically the way it is now but with a way to lockout accidental presses of setup options, and an advanced mode where we can have more functions on the screen. Most larger layout operators do not desire or need the loco image. They would prefer more function buttons in that space.

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Okay I get it now, I agree with this  :) Thanks for the clarification.

Michael Boyer:
First off Thanks Lee for starting this Topic off .( 1 )  I do think that we need to have dedicated Engine screen so the new operators don't keep losing the page they are using to run from.  ( 2 ) Be able to shut off the warning messages.  I hope your all having a fantastic Day   

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