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Frog Juicers compatible with RailPro?
Tom:
Can someone explain how to wire an ANE v5 AP003 Smartfrog? I am not certain I understood the wiring explanation by Joel on August 7, 2016. My frame of reference is frog juicer where a + and – from the power buss goes into the frog juicer and then up to 6 individual wires are each run from the frog juicer to up to six individual frogs - simple enough. But where does the power go into on the ANE v5 Smartfrog: the “TRACK+”, the “TRACK-“, or somewhere else? If it either one or the other, is there anything else besides connecting the actual frog to “FROG” on the Smartfrog?
G8B4Life:
Hi Tom,
Joel still hangs out here so he should be able to chime in however this should get you started as well.
When used by itself ANE's documentation states that the Smart Frog (now at version 6) requires a 12v supply connected at the terminals marked POWER, which is located away from the other terminals. The current documentation for the Smart Frog can be found here: https://www.anemodel.com/%E4%B8%8B%E8%BC%89/SmartFrog%206%20manual%20V1.2.pdf.
The TRACK+ and TRACK- go to the turnout and FROG goes to the frog. Each Smart Frog unit can only service one frog.
Hopefully Joel will let us know what he did for the 12v power.
- Tim
Alan:
Wow, those directions are tough to read. No wonder you are asking for help.
These are especially curious statements. Odd that a specific current is called out.
--- Quote ---Limited to DC Controller Features, Auto switch turnout position function will not working well in
DC control environment. We recommend that you carefully
to install SmartFrog V5 in DCC control
will be better for this special function.
In DCC control, Auto Switch function perfectly within the following conditions of operation.
Locomotive running current over 400mA and track voltage higher than 2.5V.
--- End quote ---
G8B4Life:
--- Quote from: Alan on July 17, 2018, 06:53:20 AM ---Wow, those directions are tough to read. No wonder you are asking for help.
--- End quote ---
Just remember, English is not these guys primary language. At least they do better than some of my works Chinese suppliers!
--- Quote ---These are especially curious statements. Odd that a specific current is called out.
--- Quote ---Limited to DC Controller Features, Auto switch turnout position function will not working well in
DC control environment. We recommend that you carefully
to install SmartFrog V5 in DCC control
will be better for this special function.
In DCC control, Auto Switch function perfectly within the following conditions of operation.
Locomotive running current over 400mA and track voltage higher than 2.5V.
--- End quote ---
--- End quote ---
This is in relation to the new feature in the V6 revision, If you have the Smart Frog hooked up to the Smart Switch system, if you run through the turnout from the trailing direction the Smart Frog in conjunction with the Smart Switch can realise if the points are set correctly or not and throw them automatically for you. Why this apparently doesn't work well for DC track but does for DCC track and why the minimum current I don't know but there must be something to it. It does not matter anyway if your using just the Smart Frog by itself as the Smart Frog can not throw points.
Oh, Points = Switch for anyone unfamiliar with the term.
- Tim
Tom:
Tim,
I appreciate the information, hard to find ANE documentation.
My Frog Juicer works as described with a PWR-56 earlier in this string whereby the polarity reversal works well in one direction, but shorts out the PWR-56 in the other direction. But when the power supply comes back on after having been shorted out the polarity has been correctly reversed and locomotive run well in that direction from then on.
The ANE Smartfrog requires another power supply and more wiring than the Frog Juicer. So, to avoid that, I willing to accept the one-in-so-many hiccups as long as PWR-56 lasts, at least I have a spare one of those.
Also, it would have been nice to have known sooner that Shinohara turnouts are wired to power the frogs for whichever way the turnout is aligned. It is almost worth considering pulling a few Atlas turnouts and replacing with Shinohara to solve the problem the way it should have been solved in the first place. They can still be found, and rumor is that Walthers will reconstitute the Shinohara line.
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