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DCC ready plug
Abiqua:
Does the LM-2 plug directly into which DCC ready connection? 7 pin, 8 pin, 9 pin or 128 pin. I am totally new to DCC ready locos and I am not sure if I am asking the correct question. I gave up trying to understand the various DCC instructions but RailPro seems very straight forward. Help is appreciated.
Bob. Modeling SP&S and related Oregon Short Lines
G8B4Life:
Don't worry Bob, ask away; we're here to help.
The LM-2 (and LM-2S and the old LM-1) plugs directly onto the 9 pin JST connector. I don't have a loco with the 9 pin built in on board so I can't provide a photo.
There is a 6 pin JST on the module as well but this is for function output and input and (LM-2S only) the speaker output. The 6 pin harness is included with the LM-2S but must be purchased separately for the LM-2. The 6 pin is not needed to use the loco module unless you want to use functions (I think) 5 and 6, the inputs (which don't have a use yet) or the speaker output.
- Tim
G8B4Life:
While replying to Bob I remembered a question I had asked Tim Ring once, and got a "you can get an adapter harness" reply, which really is of no help given the circumstances. Not that I hold Tim Ring in any less regard for that comment, he simply wouldn't know.
I basically have to hardwire everything and make modifications to weights/ frames for what I model. No Australian prototype model has ever been made with a 9 pin JST in it. Everything has been designed for 8 pin directly on board (ie, no harness) decoders, and now the latest craze being built into our models is the 21 pin MTC.
What I had asked Tim was if he was going to consider other form factors for the plug, which lead to the adapter harness reply. I know the 9 pin JST is not going away anytime soon but given the advances in the hobby (somewhat stalled last time I looked) with tighter form factors such as 21 MTC, and PLuX 8/16/22 is the 9 pin JST going to end up a headache for us, with us having to hardwire everything or try and fit adapter harnesses in if we don't embrace what's coming? Thoughts?
- Tim
KPack:
Bob and Tim, in answer to your question regarding harnesses:
9-pin is the most commonly used plug in the States. 21-pin is popular overseas and is catching on in the states, while some manufacturers still use 8-pin. Should you run across one of these locomotives I head over to TCS to pick up the harness I need: http://www.tcsdcc.com/Customer_Content/Products/Harnesses/harnesses.html. Pick up the needed adapter harness from TCS, then plug in the Railpro module. If the trend continues towards other plug designs I'm sure that Tim will start making and selling harnesses to plug into the Railpro module.
You may find that in some cases there isn't enough space inside the locomotive shell to fit everything that you want (module, multiple speakers, resistors, wiring, etc). That's when you take a big step and take out the factory electronics and hardwire in the Railpro module. More work and takes some patience, but allows you much more room to work with and greater electical reliability. This is how I do all my installs now, just because I like it. That being said, in most cases you can just pop the shell off, plug in the module, shell back on and go to town: .
Regardless of how you install the module you will certainly enjoy Railpro! Welcome to the group!
-Kevin
Abiqua:
Thank you to all who answered. When you are new to train control it is often difficult to find information especially when you are not sure of the question. The harness link was great and made the issue much more clear.
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