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Difficulty with instillation
G8B4Life:
Jim, I'd definitely pass on what you had to do to Tim Ring.
Who is your ISP if you don't mind me asking (you can PM me the answer if you don't want to make it public). Their description of "connects differently" does sound like they use some type of Carrier Grade NAT and I'd like to see if I can find out anything about the technology they use.
Expanding on this a bit, even with a static IP address you could technically (but unlikely) still be behind Carrier Grade NAT but the static address means your ISP can open a port up just for you and no one else as I mentioned earlier. If your interested in finding out whether you have a public routable IP address or a private IP address (CGN) you can try a couple of things.
The best way: you can check whether your IP address reported by websites like www.whatismyip.com and the WAN interface IP address (you'll need to log into your router to check this IP address) match, or, the second best way, you can run the Traceroute test in the UDP test tool and check if any of the IP addresses after the first Hop (especially the second Hop) are in the private address range thus:
10.0.0.0 -- 10.255.255.255
172.16.0.0 -- 172.31.255.255
192.168.0.0 – 192.168.255.255
100.64.0.0–100.127.255.255
The first three are common to the LAN side of your router and you'd see an address in one of those ranges as the first Hop if you do the traceroute test. The fouth range is a dead giveaway of GCN.
- Tim
nortoneye:
Tim,
my ISP is Paul Bunyan Communications in Bemidji, Mn, a local cooperative that has invested heavily in fiber optics which they promote as "the Giga Zone" as they have speeds of up to a gigabite/sec. Great for streaming and downloading versus the 100MB speed of my prior cable based provider.
I did send an email to Tim Ring regarding this issue.
Jim
G8B4Life:
Ding ding ding we have a winner! Directly from the horses mouth, or more correctly from the Paul Bunyan Net Neutrality page at https://paulbunyan.net/residential/internet/net-neutrality-disclosure/ Paul Bunyan uses Carrier Grade NAT:
--- Quote ---Our GigaZone service requires the purchase of a globally routable IP address ($10/month) to remove the basic firewall.
--- End quote ---
While they are talking about their firewall service in the webpage what it means in this instance is that they can't configure their CGN equipment to work with RPA, and it's almost certainly due to the fixed inbound port number.
- Tim
nortoneye:
Tim,
Thanks for figuring this out-at least now I know what the issue is/was. The extra charge is kinda a pain, but the connection speed is nice to have. On the flip side as members of the cooperative, we receive a dividend check that should cover the added expense.
Now I'm waiting for more steam sounds......
jim
nortoneye:
Hello all.
I did send the info to Tim Ring
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9:58 AM (5 hours ago)
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Hi Jim,
Thanks very much for the feedback! We do appreciate it!
I see a couple tings that do not make any sense unless GigaZone's goal is just to up-charge their customers for services that basically all other Internet Providers offer included in their price.
The statement "Our GigaZone service requires the purchase of a globally routable IP address ($10/month) to remove the basic firewall." is an absurd statement. All Internet providers must offer IPV4 networking (Huge vast majority of the internet ) and ALL IPV4 is by definition globally routable! IPV4 is globally routable by design. This statement has the appearance of trying to get people to pay for a manufactured technical problem. It has nothing to do with the internet begin globally routable, or our server, or your equipment. What I hear them saying is we put in place a firewall to stop traffic and if you pay $10 we will take it out!
You said they gave you a static IP to fix the problem. The above information has nothing to do with a static IP. It talks about a "firewall" that the ISP is providing that is causing the problem.
This has nothing to do with fiber connection or static vs dynamic addressing. In our area ATT offers fiber and the default settings work just fine with our server. The huge vast majority of home internet suppliers use dynamic IPs. If our server was not compatible with dynamic IPs than most of our customers would not be able to use our server.
Even though it is working, you may want to consider getting a different ISP because the statement " requires the purchase of a globally routable IP address ($10/month) " is not normal form typical ISPs.
Tim
I also sent a redacted version of his reply to my ISP for comment-nothing so far.
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