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RailPro => RailPro Specific Help & Discussion => Topic started by: Edavis on October 23, 2017, 11:54:17 AM

Title: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 23, 2017, 11:54:17 AM
Not sure if iam writing this in the right place or not but I took the plunge and ordered starter kit and 3 modules one with sound is there anything thing else I might need to run.All I run with now is tech2 hooked up with the two wires.Totally new at any kind of control other than what I have now.Any help,tips,would be great.thx
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Alan on October 23, 2017, 02:08:20 PM
Welcome to the club. Sounds like you have everything you need to get up and running.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 23, 2017, 03:43:04 PM
Ok thanks for the reply. I am looking forward to trying this
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Alan on October 23, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
Upon further thought...

If your locomotives are not DCC Ready labeled locomotives (no circuit board or wiring connector inside) then you will need a 9 pin harnesses to wire the LM to the locomotive.

http://www.ringengineering.com/Accessories.htm (http://www.ringengineering.com/Accessories.htm)

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Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 23, 2017, 06:29:28 PM
I have one athearn quick plug and one Walthers  mainline and a athearn genesis.the quick plug I think I get but the  Walthers iam not sure didn't see a quick plug.the genesis I haven't opened yet I hope it has the plug.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: darryl.trains on October 23, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Looking for DCC ready engines makes the transition quite a bit easier but some engines have to be hard wired. A DCC installed decoder that is not part of the board is very easy to change with an adapter plug with plugs on each end. Built in decoders within the main board are usually tossed. I don't know why most of us call the decoder socket a plug but we know which is which?  Since I had to hard wired a few old brass engines when I converted to can motors and add lighting made the changing to RailPro a snap. Eventually you most likely learn how to convert any worth while engine. Some can be a headache as was the very old Athearn RDC rubber drive beast I worked on.  All in all, I enjoy the initial effort in starting with RP and no going back ever. Do the work, play the trains, simple as that. Lots of help here and do not be afraid to ask as many have been through this from the start.  The old fardt in Arid-Zona  8)
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Joel B. on October 24, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
I have a question that might need to be moved but due to the nature of the OP question I thought it might fit here. OK,if I was to buy an HO scale engine to put my first control LM in what would you experts suggest? (Brand / Model and why, Railroad not important)
Thanks!
(not there yet)
Joel B.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: nodcc4me on October 24, 2017, 11:07:40 AM
Would you prefer a diesel engine or steam? For a first install, I believe you would find it easier to install in a DCC ready steam engine because the tender will most likely have enough room to easily install both a LM module and speaker. If you feel comfortable doing that you can try a diesel installation, which can be tricky and may involve removing the factory board and hard wiring it.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 24, 2017, 12:59:09 PM
I was wondering  if I can use the same two wires that I have now to go from the railpro power to the tracks?
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: nodcc4me on October 24, 2017, 01:14:02 PM
Yes, those wires will be fine as long as they are around 16 gauge. You can run 22 gauge feeders off them if desired.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Alan on October 24, 2017, 01:23:42 PM
Adding to what Al said... you will know if the wires are too small or too long if the HC reports a Low Voltage warning while operating a locomotive. DC locomotives simply slow down if the wires are too small. RP will report a warning.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: nodcc4me on October 24, 2017, 01:38:20 PM
While on the subject of low voltage warnings, you may also get one if your wheels are dirty. Before you run any RP equipped locomotives on your existing track, clean the rails good. DC/DCC powered track gets pretty gummed up. That won't be a significant problem with RP.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 24, 2017, 02:30:45 PM
Ok thanks, The wires I use now are pretty small and just connected to the track with the rail joiners in one spot. I don't have any feeders at this time. I think the wires came with the techll controller. I am guessing I will need more feeders to provide power to farther track?. I can run my dc locomotive all the way around without problems.thx for the help guys.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Alan on October 24, 2017, 02:41:25 PM
If your DC locos work all way round the odds are so will RP. I wouldn't change anything unless there is a problem.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 24, 2017, 03:02:25 PM
Ok that's what I'll try.thanks again
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Joel B. on October 24, 2017, 03:44:35 PM
Hi Folks,
My question was more directed more as "do specific brands/models lend them selves to easy installs" Like is Atlas or "insert another brand" more difficult than another. I am just asking, a new user might buy one brand or another for their first install to get them selves going quicker and gain experience. For my choice I am a diesel guy but still would want to go for an easy "first time" adventure. With out having my sweaty hands on an engine to see what's inside, what brands seem to make it more easy? Follow?
Thanks again,
Joel B.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Alan on October 24, 2017, 05:56:46 PM
Only someone that has opened up a lot of different locomotives will be able to answer that question. Sorry, I'm not that guy. I can say be careful with end cab switchers. An LM won't fit in Atlas S2, S4.

The installs posted on this forum would make good go-bys. You know everything fits and can see pictures too!
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: CampbellRice on October 26, 2017, 04:54:48 PM
Be sure to update your HC-2 or HC2b and your decoders first thing you get it. I didn't and wish I had. Basically started over again as I had issues with the new sounds working properly.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 27, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
Alright I received my starter set and was up and rolling in less then a hour. I only have one loco with the quick plug unfortunately but really happy with the super easy install on that. I only have two more locos that I ll use on the layout for now but I have no idea how to hook the rp up to those?
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: William Brillinger on October 27, 2017, 11:45:10 AM
Congratulations Edavis on getting up and running!

I suggest you stat a new thread in the RailPro Installation section with some photos of your units insides and request some suggestions about how to set them up!

RailPro Installation section: https://rpug.pdc.ca/index.php/board,2.0.html
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: Edavis on October 27, 2017, 12:28:58 PM
Thanks William,lol I'm not very tech savvy.But I must say rp is refreshingly easy to use and the loco seems to run as good or better than before I iam very happy with the rp.
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: MRL Trains on November 06, 2017, 03:51:55 PM
Hi Folks,
My question was more directed more as "do specific brands/models lend them selves to easy installs" Like is Atlas or "insert another brand" more difficult than another. I am just asking, a new user might buy one brand or another for their first install to get them selves going quicker and gain experience. For my choice I am a diesel guy but still would want to go for an easy "first time" adventure. With out having my sweaty hands on an engine to see what's inside, what brands seem to make it more easy? Follow?
Thanks again,
Joel B.

Athearn RTR has a 9 pin JST connector for quick and easy install on their DCC Ready locos.  I believe Athearn Genesis does too.
Chris
Title: Re: Took the plunge
Post by: William Brillinger on November 06, 2017, 04:19:59 PM
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I believe Athearn Genesis does too.

Yes they do.