Post by: Pizzapizza on March 18, 2018, 08:35:12 PM
Post by: nodcc4me on March 18, 2018, 08:56:20 PM
Post by: Alan on March 18, 2018, 09:40:07 PM
Starting with this audio:
Select the beginning part of the horn blast (in white) and copy to new file:
Select the middle looping part and copy to new file:
Finally, select the last part and copy to new file:
You can paste each of the new files sequentially into a temporary file to hear how it sounds. Paste in multiple copies of the middle file to make sure your looping part sounds good during a long blast.
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 19, 2018, 04:33:57 AM
Post by: William Brillinger on March 19, 2018, 05:46:21 AM
https://rpug.pdc.ca/index.php/board,4.0.html
Perhaps once you've got your file working the way you want, you'll post it too.
Post by: William Brillinger on March 19, 2018, 05:56:48 AM
https://rpug.pdc.ca/index.php/topic,318.msg2267.html#msg2267
Post by: Alan on March 19, 2018, 10:03:38 AM
So you’re saying the middle part is just a single file of the original you do not have to create a looping in the program itself to send to the Railpro assist correct?, and yes I recorded the original horn using ProTools with an awesome reverb that the Longhorn itself sounds absolutely amazing probably too much of a reverb around six seconds after the blast but it sounds really good !
You may be thinking of MIDI sequences where you create actual loops. RP works with an audio bitstream. Analogous to MIDI = vector art (EPS math instructions) and WAV = raster art (JPEG bit-by-bit image).
The RP module simply replays your center audio file over and over thus creating the looping.
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 19, 2018, 10:10:46 AM
Thanks for all your help, John
Post by: William Brillinger on March 19, 2018, 10:12:28 AM
Post by: Alan on March 19, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
OK that’s what I was kind of wondering about the middle section if you had actually make the loop or if the RailPro assistant does it itself ,that should make it a little easier , so just out of curiosity should the first and last samples be a lot shorter than the middle ? I’ll experiment a little bit with it tonight see what I can come up with .
Thanks for all your help, John
That is a personal artistic choice. What sounds good to your ear?
Ideally, all the files should be relatively short especially the first and last as their combined length determines minimum duration upon button press. The reality is you will be constrained by your source audio. The suitable cut points in your audio file ultimately determine how much latitude you have. For example look at the horn end selection in my example. It trails off very slowly. Not a great candidate as it means even a quick button press will still yield a long horn trail off. Your audio editor will have tools with which you can shorten the clip timeframe but use them with discretion. It is terribly easy to ruin the fidelity of the horn.
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 19, 2018, 12:37:58 PM
Post by: Alan on March 19, 2018, 12:44:57 PM
Remember, the sound will be played back by a tiny speaker with very limited frequency range especially at the bottom end. I seriously doubt a big hall reverb effect coming from an itsy bitsy little speaker will sound anything at all like a big hall.
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 19, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
Post by: Alan on March 19, 2018, 02:41:01 PM
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 19, 2018, 07:10:53 PM
Post by: William Brillinger on March 19, 2018, 08:19:14 PM
I find the best loop I can using the repeat play option and move the selected section out until it sounds good.
Then I make a fade from the segments before and after the section I looped so it meshes naturally.
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 20, 2018, 10:04:39 AM
Post by: Alan on March 20, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 20, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Post by: William Brillinger on March 20, 2018, 11:35:04 AM
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 20, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
thanks again John
Post by: William Brillinger on March 20, 2018, 07:30:53 PM
Did you "make" this sound, or is it a recording of a real horn?
Ideally the sample should be longer and I think there may be a 'pop' in the middle of the recording which is why it's not looping nicely. If you created this digitally, can you make a longer version?
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 20, 2018, 07:51:47 PM
Post by: William Brillinger on March 20, 2018, 08:04:26 PM
Post by: Pizzapizza on March 21, 2018, 07:27:21 PM
thanks John Good luck I will post a leslie s3l too