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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: KPack on October 06, 2015, 12:18:39 PM

Title: Forum Suggestions
Post by: KPack on October 06, 2015, 12:18:39 PM
With the new forum, it appears we have more capability to include the features we want into the forum itself.  Perhaps a thread of proposed forum features/categories/etc would be good acceptable?  I'll leave this up to Bill as he is the one heading this place up.  I definitely don't want to him or anyone feel that running the forum is a burden.

One thing I'm curious of is if we can create some sort of a header?  Obviously something Railpro related would be nice, though using the Railpro logo would probably be taboo unless we got permission from Ring Engineering. 

Thoughts?

-Kevin
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on October 06, 2015, 12:34:38 PM
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One thing I'm curious of is if we can create some sort of a header?  Obviously something Railpro related would be nice, though using the Railpro logo would probably be taboo unless we got permission from Ring Engineering.

I'm planning on customizing the template, I just have not had a chance to explore it yet.
Not to worry, I'll get there!

Also, All suggestions are welcome.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on October 06, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
I have developed a graphic and sent it to Tim for permission to use.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on October 07, 2015, 11:32:14 AM
I have added MODS for handling youtube videos and inline pictures to the forum software.

still waiting to hear back from Ring Engineering about the Group Header Image.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on October 07, 2015, 12:12:35 PM
Tim has approved the Header!
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: jimw on November 17, 2015, 07:02:11 PM
Re: "Perhaps a thread of proposed forum features/categories/etc would be good." (Oct 6, 2015)

I agree that an organizational format would be a good idea, as Kevin proposes.  I quickly generated the following categories of potential interest.  I suspect each would likely require subcategories to aid future searches for specific issues.

1.   RailPro Overview / links
2.   RailPro vs. DCC
3.   RailPro Costs / Comparisons
4.   RailPro Installation (especially photos/narratives/videos)
5.   Speakers / Installation / How-to
6.   Layout wiring for RailPro
7.   RailPro sound features
8.   RailPro Auto Reversing Modules
9.   Railpro Accessory Modules
10. RailPro Wish-lists
11. N Scale
12. Other

As one new to the hobby, I have benefitted greatly from the free exchange of knowledge so graciously provided by each of you in this and other venues.  I hope I may in the future be able to contribute in kind.  Please feel free to modify/disregard any of the above if it is not useful.

Jim W
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on November 17, 2015, 10:18:31 PM
i'm listening. say more...
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: jimw on November 18, 2015, 04:43:12 PM
Hi Bill:
Hi Bill:

Assuming that this is along the gist of Kevin's initial post, I'm suggesting posts be categorized, so that as the users of this forum can more easily find relevant topics (especially as one anticipates a progressively expansive discourse.)  I'm not sure how much effort is required to tend this sort of forum, and my own skills at the technical  management of a database are nil.  Hopefully, given a framework, users would be able to sort their own entries appropriately.

I also thought of another possible category: "Having Fun with RailPro", which might be a good place for videos of the system in use.

In any case, I really don't wish to seem ungrateful.  What you have accomplished is already a  remarkable resource.

Jim Wilkens, Titusville PA
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: KPack on November 18, 2015, 06:19:43 PM
Jim and Bill,

Some of those headings would probably be best as "subforums" under the general forum headings we have now.  Open up the forum section you are interested in (Railpro Features for example) and then navigate to the appropriate subforum if necessary (AM modules for example).  Still keep each general forum category open to posting as we have it now, but the subforums could be used for items/threads related specifically to the topic of the subforum. 

That being said, in a forum such as this where membership is at present somewhat small, the subforums may or may not be used much.  But perhaps it would be useful to start that now so that we don't have a lot of moving to do later if we decide to do subforums?

The one thing we don't want is to have so many forums and subforums that it becomes nearly impossible to navigate and browse.  Take The Diesel Detailer forum for example: http://dieseldetailer.proboards.com/ (http://dieseldetailer.proboards.com/).  That forum has 7 main areas with 68 (!!!) subforums.  It's overload!  So we ought to be cautious on what subforums, if any, we decide to add.  We don't want to go overboard!

Additional thoughts?

-Kevin

Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: jimw on November 18, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
Kevin.

You make a good point.  I just looked at the MRH forum: it has 6 categories.  By far the largest is "Let's Talk Trains."  Within that are only 8 subcategories with c. 8200 posts covering nearly ALL of model railroading.  May be best to leave well-enough alone.

Jim W
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: hirailer on November 18, 2015, 08:47:32 PM
As Jim stated, we should leave well enough alone. Maybe when we have a much larger membership with a lot more posts, we could think about sub categories. The site as it is now is easy to navigate in and serves us quite well. New categories that might be considered are one for members photos and videos, and possibly another category for open topic discussion. (no politics or religion).

Mel
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: nodcc4me on November 19, 2015, 08:48:24 AM
I would agree to keep it simple for now. As a moderator on a large forum I'm aware of the need for sub forums, where necessary. Since the topic of this group is limited strictly to RP discussions, most of the forum suggestions mentioned can be fit into a general forum with possibly just a few subs, as we now have. A well-functioning search box should be able to narrow down topics by title for anyone needing specific information.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: dfischer71 on November 19, 2015, 07:30:17 PM
I'm new here, so my experience with this forum is limited.  However, I really liked it when I first got started in it a few weeks ago because of its simplicity AND the fact it is only about RP.  My experience thus far has been excellent, but wish we had more folks involved...that will come in time.

I still like the simplicity and ease of use.  So, I vote for SIMPLE!

If we really want to get off into other railroading topics and themes, there are several other very mature forums that meet that need quite well.

My only suggestion would be to get Tim involved here in some way.  He may not have the time to do that and maybe he monitors the forum, but I would like to see his responses from time to time.  But, I'd rather he spend his time developing new and better products!

Dan
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: TwinStar on November 27, 2015, 10:21:54 AM
What about something for other new technologies? I found a new panel control system in AU this is simply amazing that I'd live to share.

Jacob
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on November 27, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
What about something for other new technologies? I found a new panel control system in AU this is simply amazing that I'd live to share.

My inclination is that if it's not RailPro related, it does not belong here.
Perhaps MRH or another forum would be more appropriate for sharing such topics.

That said, if there is interest from this group, I would not have a problem with creating another category for "off topic discussions".
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: TwinStar on November 27, 2015, 01:31:35 PM
What about something for other new technologies? I found a new panel control system in AU this is simply amazing that I'd live to share.

My inclination is that if it's not RailPro related, it does not belong here.
Perhaps MRH or another forum would be more appropriate for sharing such topics.

That said, if there is interest from this group, I would not have a problem with creating another category for "off topic discussions".

We had that same mentality with a Free-mo forum and it quickly died out due to such a narrow focus. I do notice on the  truck, motorcycle, gun, and aviation forums that I visit that there are outside topic forums that allow me to peruse other topics and keep me there on that forum which leads me to an overall higher participation.

That's just my opinion though.

Jacob
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: KPack on November 27, 2015, 01:40:21 PM
Nothing wrong with an off topic section in my opinion.  The focus of the forum is Railpro, but I think it would be appropriate to discuss other mostly railroad issues as well, though in a separate sub forum.  Other forums are better for general train topics, but something that could be used in conjunction with Railpro would be useful to post here. 

-Kevin
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: DBeacon on November 27, 2015, 07:12:46 PM
I noticed two points here today.  One being the "sub-topics", the other being "new technologies".  While I'm other forums, the likes ranging from political to whatever, I too have found them to get bogged down in the "we have to include everything" stance or we lose them.  Being unique, as I hope this site will be, is the end all be all.  It's why I'm here.  Sub-topics relating directly to operations with RP as the backdrop....I'm in. "New technologies" has my full attention.  We've seen DC, we've endured DCC (bad taste )....we, or maybe just me, should be ready for the next big thing.....no wires.  Is that not the implied definition of RP.  I think so.  One step further will be "deadrail", the way many are leaning as I will too.  It is my belief that that will be the direction of the hobby.  Your tools, lawn equipment, phone, computer, I-Pad....the list will grow exponentially and will eventually include our loved hobby.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: Abiqua on November 27, 2015, 10:27:51 PM
I'm with Bill. This is a RailPro board. Non-RailPro topics should go to the appropriately related boards. Individuals such as my self are trying to learn all we can about RailPro. Sorting through unrelated topics is very distracting and confusing.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: TwinStar on November 28, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
Sorting through unrelated topics is very distracting and confusing.

If there was a sub forum you wouldn't have to sort, just ignore.

Jacob
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: Robert on November 28, 2015, 08:45:14 PM
If there was a sub forum you wouldn't have to sort, just ignore.
Jacob
Nothing wrong with an off topic section in my opinion.  The focus of the forum is Railpro, but I think it would be appropriate to discuss other mostly railroad issues as well, though in a separate sub forum.  Other forums are better for general train topics, but something that could be used in conjunction with Railpro would be useful to post here. 

-Kevin

+1 and 1. After all, if I had not seen RailPro mentioned on another forum, I would not know about it and be considering buying into the system.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: G8B4Life on November 29, 2015, 12:39:31 AM
This is one of those things that has points for both arguments, for instance, the same as Robert had said, if Jacob (from memory) hadn't bought RailPro up on the Free-mo (which uses DCC, not RailPro) Yahoo! group then I doubt I'd know about it and I'd still be sitting around thinking what better things I could be doing with my life than trying to co-exist with DCC

I think if one can prove to themselves that what they want to post is not a competing system and they want to tell everyone so they can convert too but is an enhancement to RailPro use and enjoyment that's not from Ring Engineering then that should be ok given it's own section and rules. In reality it is probably not as simple as that but it is worth considering. I don't know if control panels would fit the rules but there are topics already and most likely in the future that do fit.

- Tim
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: Prostreetamx on December 02, 2015, 11:29:44 AM
Thanks, now I have another forum to follow in my limited spare time.

The one thing we don't want is to have so many forums and subforums that it becomes nearly impossible to navigate and browse.  Take The Diesel Detailer forum for example: http://dieseldetailer.proboards.com/ (http://dieseldetailer.proboards.com/).  That forum has 7 main areas with 68 (!!!) subforums.  It's overload!  So we ought to be cautious on what subforums, if any, we decide to add.  We don't want to go overboard!

Additional thoughts?

-Kevin
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Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: Prostreetamx on December 02, 2015, 11:33:45 AM
I guess I used the quote option incorrectly. Only the first sentence is actually mine.
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on December 02, 2015, 11:43:03 AM
you can edit your post using the "Modify" option at the top of the comment
Title: Re: Forum Suggestions
Post by: William Brillinger on December 02, 2015, 05:24:11 PM
Ok, I have created a new General Discussion Board and Renamed the old one to RailPro Discussion!