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i have no experience with that loco, nor with the 3s-21, but given those provisos, could you try this:

1) save the 3s-21 for another project and purchase a 3S.
2) remove the printed circuit board and all the white connectors, identifying all the wires (track current, motor leads, lights, etc)
3) hard wire the 3S to all the wires that were previously connected to the now-removed circuit board
4) use the smallest speakers you can find (i've used iphone 4 speakers which are pretty thin)

if none of this is applicable to your model than feel free to ignore the advice!

good luck

Ken

ps--if you are still short on space in wedging in a 3S, you can remove the plastic housing (voiding the warranty) and wrap the module with Kapton tape which will provide electrical insulation.
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Hey Carl,
I bet if you ripped that OEM board out and did a hard install it would fit. It won’t be easy, but I bet it can be done.
Paul
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Finished RailPro Installation Examples / Walthers 2026 SW1... LM-3S-21 too big...
« Last post by cws on June 29, 2026, 12:02:52 PM »
Bummer, I was so hoping this was going to work... 

Carl
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General Discussion / Re: running RailPro on club layouts
« Last post by cws on June 27, 2026, 08:04:23 PM »
Ok, as hoped/promised/expected I can confirm that I had zero problems running on the Central Florida Model Railroad Club layout today with my RailPro equipped Walthers E8A and a few passenger cars! 

I literally set the loco and cars on a yard track, powered on the controller, connected to the locomotive and I was ready to roll.  The HC-3 controller is really impressive. 

I've been a RailPro fan since I first saw it advertised in MRH, over 9 years back but this is the 1st time I've run my own equipment (which is rather sad)!  Now I just need more 21 pin modules!

So if you're ever in the area and want a tour or to meet up, reach out! 

Carl
RailPro evangelist of Central Florida



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RailPro Specific Help & Discussion / Re: HC Simulator and Windows 11
« Last post by Espeelark on June 24, 2026, 01:14:21 PM »
Yeah - sorry about that guys!
I had typed up a response (saying I didn't have a C:\ProgramData option) and posted it, to only then see that I did indeed have that C:\ProgramData option - DUH!  ::)
It was late, I deleted that post (almost instantly) since it was false. Didn't think it would help the historical record to have incorrect information posted. I'm amazed that Tim saw it before I deleted it!
Being as late as it was, I told myself I'd deal with it tomorrow (today).
So, suffice it to say, I did find that "RscLoaded" file just as Tim suggested, deleted it, and HC Simulator now appears to start up and run fine. I have not fully put it through its paces yet, but, I'm optimistic! If anything changes, I'll report back.
Paul
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RailPro Specific Help & Discussion / Re: HC Simulator and Windows 11
« Last post by gregeusa on June 24, 2026, 10:37:52 AM »
Great job in catching that Tim!

Greg
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RailPro Specific Help & Discussion / Re: EMD 567 sound file and GE generator???
« Last post by KPack on June 24, 2026, 10:30:01 AM »
Yeah, the compressor seems to be from a GE.  I believe I told Tim this in the past but nothing came from it.  I would prefer to have the compressor from the 567 file placed on the GEVO and 7FDL-16.  It's worth bringing it back up to Tim again.

I'll need to give the 645-12 another listen.  I like the 567 ULT even though it is definitely stack heavy. 
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RailPro Specific Help & Discussion / Re: EMD 567 sound file and GE generator???
« Last post by CPRail on June 24, 2026, 08:45:34 AM »
I've avoided using the 567-ULT file because while it was recorded from a 567 (as covered in previous posts) it's more focused on the stack sound than the track level sound. Thus, the whine/drone commonly associated with a 567 notching up/down is subdued. I'll have to check it again for the compressor whoop, never noticed it.

I've been using the 645-12 ULT file - nice "stack talk" and you get the whine. I believe I saw somewhere that it was recorded from a SW1500.
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RailPro Specific Help & Discussion / Re: EMD 567 sound file and GE generator???
« Last post by ON28 on June 24, 2026, 07:43:56 AM »
Compressor, yes. Thanks, I have yet to do any work with sound files.
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RailPro Specific Help & Discussion / Re: EMD 567 sound file and GE generator???
« Last post by G8B4Life on June 23, 2026, 10:51:39 PM »
That would be the compressor, not the generator with the whoop sound, and the whoop compressor is definitely GE. I've never noticed this before but then I've probably not run anything long enough to trigger the auto playing the compressor sound.

 You could load a new compressor sound to the LM but you'd have to control it manually with a button and disable the automatic compressor playing in the sound setup. It's been a long while since I've had my RP stuff out so I don't recall exactly where that is. I always though building the compressor sound in with the prime mover sounds was not the most brilliant idea.

- Tim
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