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A new page on RingEngineering.com
« on: November 21, 2019, 06:56:34 AM »
I don't recall seeing this the last time I was on the RE website though I don't know how new it actually is, it could be a few weeks old and nobody else reported it (it's not particularly newsworthy).

TR has put up a page on the Direct Radio+Net component of RailPro (or more correctly why WiFi and Bluetooth were rejected for RP): https://www.ringengineering.com/DirectRadio.htm

Nothing in there that we users don't already know but it does confirm that modules in a consist talk directly to each other. Try that DCC!

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2019, 07:23:18 AM »
Whole lot of words that don't say much. Wonder if he is practicing to become a politician.  ;D
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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2019, 04:52:05 AM »
So could this new server fix the CGNat issue!?!?  That would save me 10 bucks a month....

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2019, 06:12:33 AM »
So could this new server fix the CGNat issue!?!?  That would save me 10 bucks a month....

No it does not fix the issue. As I mentioned in the RPA 4.01 release announcement thread here all he did was move the problem from one port to a different port. I don't know if he just doesn't know exactly what he actually needs to change/fix or whether....

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2019, 11:59:54 AM »
well that's discouraging...he mentioned the new server would address the issue when I went through all the connection issues earlier in the year

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2019, 12:28:52 PM »
Try it out, and if it fails, let Ring know!
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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2019, 01:43:41 PM »
he is currently looking over my HC-2 to see why it would not connect through the USB port--I'll ask him specifically when I call him

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2019, 08:23:32 PM »
he is currently looking over my HC-2 to see why it would not connect through the USB port--I'll ask him specifically when I call him

Just remember (for everyone), the HC-2 failing to initiate a download and CGNAT are separate issues.

Try it out, and if it fails, let Ring know!

Nortoneye doesn't have a CGNAT issue at this time, he's paying extra per month on his internet access to have a public ip address so he does have access as attested to he can use RPA and HC Sim together to connect and download files.

I've already run the tests and I already have the answers. In fact, I thought of and ran a new test today which confirms a couple of things.

- I set up a port forward in my router to send all unexpected packets from the internet on the port that RPA uses as the source port to my test server (note: the default behavior of virtually every router on the planet is to drop any connection it's not expecting, this is how CGNAT stops RPA from working).

- I set up a listener on that port on my test server.

- Using the UDP test tool on my PC I sent a connection test to Rings server using a different source port to the port that RPA uses.

The result: As expected the test server got the reply from Rings server and not my PC.

- Tim

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2019, 09:59:15 PM »

- I set up a port forward in my router to send all unexpected packets from the internet on the port that RPA uses as the source port to my test server (note: the default behavior of virtually every router on the planet is to drop any connection it's not expecting, this is how CGNAT stops RPA from working).

- I set up a listener on that port on my test server.

- Using the UDP test tool on my PC I sent a connection test to Rings server using a different source port to the port that RPA uses.

The result: As expected the test server got the reply from Rings server and not my PC.

- Tim

Tim Ring would do well to hire you as a subcontractor.
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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2019, 03:55:13 AM »
Tim Ring would do well to hire you as a subcontractor.

No, he would do well to swallow some pride and say "You were right, I was wrong" with nothing else needed to be said but I don't expect that. If he asked me what does he need to change/do to make it work for CGNAT I'd tell him but I don't expect that either.

I'm glad you got my test and what the result meant Alan, I wasn't expecting anyone to understand it.

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2019, 05:07:32 PM »
Tim

I THINK I understand your test, not sure I understand the reluctance to make the change in the RE server, hate to think it's just stubborn pride....anyway I'll just continue as is for now.  The advantages of RailPro out weigh the downside of 10 bucks per month

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Re: A new page on RingEngineering.com
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2019, 06:41:22 AM »

- I set up a port forward in my router to send all unexpected packets from the internet on the port that RPA uses as the source port to my test server (note: the default behavior of virtually every router on the planet is to drop any connection it's not expecting, this is how CGNAT stops RPA from working).

- I set up a listener on that port on my test server.

- Using the UDP test tool on my PC I sent a connection test to Rings server using a different source port to the port that RPA uses.

The result: As expected the test server got the reply from Rings server and not my PC.

- Tim

Tim Ring would do well to hire you as a subcontractor.

I was thinking the same thing!
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