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What's amazing is not only how cheap and easily these can be made (I made two for less than $10 each), but how well they work. At 1/5th the cost of the PBM-2, they can run much longer. I was able to use five 3.0v 2F capacitors in series and fit them into my SW1500 in place of the PBM-2 and have room for a larger speaker. And the things never stall. You can also rearrange the capacitors to fit the space.

Rob S.

Sounds intriguing Rob!
Can you take some photos of the install in that SW1500 so we can see how it all fit?
It would also be interesting to see a photo of your home-brew keep alive all by itself so that we can get an idea of how big it is/isn't.
Thanks!
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Hey All,

Interesting feedback.

Maybe it's because I'm coming back to model railroading after a 35-year hiatus and DCC (or rather, RailPro), keep-alives and all this technology is new to me. Back then, as a kid, my locos never ran very well. Of course, I didn't really understand the importance of cleaning track or locos.

I knew I wanted to try a keep-alive with RailPro, so I bought the PBM-2 for about a half-dozen of my locos, since it was RailPro.

Well, needless to say, the costs add up. Pricing is up to $49.99 retail for the PBM-2, but they do work.

Then I saw some folks were using keep-alives other than the PBM-2 successfully.

I also saw Larry Puckett's YouTube videos on making your own capacitor modules. So I ordered the parts, all from Amazon, and built a few.
https://youtu.be/nm2b7MfQrFs?si=ctzjD-S-pv-0StN-
https://youtu.be/bhK4HuJb6Ws?si=tk9QRY0EXbfLDm3h

What's amazing is not only how cheap and easily these can be made (I made two for less than $10 each), but how well they work. At 1/5th the cost of the PBM-2, they can run much longer. I was able to use five 3.0v 2F capacitors in series and fit them into my SW1500 in place of the PBM-2 and have room for a larger speaker. And the things never stall. You can also rearrange the capacitors to fit the space.

I think I will be going this route in the future. It's just kind of a no-brainer. I was very surprised.

I get that if you power your frogs and keep your track clean, you should have minimal issues. However, I like the security of the homebrew keep-alive.

In addition, by using RailPro, we are in a unique situation in that the modules still respond when on capacitor power whereas folks with DCC lose control of their locos for the short time they operate on said power.

Maybe this is all old news but I think this will save me a lot of money.

Has anyone experimented with DIY Keep-Alives?

Rob S.



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Howdy Rob,
I do not need to use Keep-Alives in my locos. I keep my tracks clean and my frogs are powered through either Tortoise or Blue-Point turnout controls.
Also, in my return loops/staging tracks, I have circuitry installed that kills the power to the track when the train reaches a certain location in it. If I had KA's, the train would go just keep on going - which I don't want.
There is only one application where I used a KA and it was in my short wheel-base SW1500 that needed to go through unpowered diamonds. I used a TCS KA2 (because it was the smallest available) and documented that install here under the "Finished RailPro Installation Examples" folder.
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i moved to Tortoise switch machines, and use them to power the frogs in my turnouts.  that, plus keeping the track clean, works for me.  i didn't want to figure out how to cram keep-alives into the shells of my locos.  i know many here do so, but i'm very happy with the tortoise machines.

Ken
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General Discussion / Re: What happened to my posts
« Last post by William Brillinger on April 16, 2026, 07:28:41 PM »
This link shows all of your posts: https://rpug.pdc.ca/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=944

I don't see anything in delete posts.
When did you post the missing posts?
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General Discussion / What happened to my posts
« Last post by carpediem4570 on April 16, 2026, 01:03:24 PM »
Had some posts of a railpro layout build.  Last one was on using foam for road bed.  They are gone. 

What happened?

Kind regards,

Max
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awesome!!  thank you
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Until you pair the HC with a module (LM, AR etc.) Nothing will show on those pages.

The locomotive photo needs to be uploaded to the LM from the HC once it has been paired (found). When that is done, you need to change the setting for locomotive picture on the LM, using the HC. LM's will always display the default image (Ring Diesel) when first found.
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Good Day,

Bought an HC-3-Sun like 8 months back.  Took it out of box last night to put a charge on it.  Updating to 1.13 firmware took many tries.  I noticed after doing this nothing shows under locomotives, turnouts, accessories.  Those pages all show blank when you click into them.  From the factory I recall at least the locomotives page having some images in there.

So I went to load some new locomotive pics in there.  Took a couple tries but got some on the device, however the locomotive page still shows blank with no images in it.   Is this correct? Will they not show up again until I pair it with an LM-3 or something?  I did verify under the delete menu that the image files are indeed on the HC-3.
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RailPro Specific Help & Discussion / Re: ISOLATING CROSS-OVER IN A LOOP
« Last post by G8B4Life on April 14, 2026, 06:21:37 AM »
I don't know what brand of track your using but zooming in on that 90 degree crossing it appears each leg of the crossing is well and truly isolated from each other.

There isn't anywhere particularly special that the AR-1's should be attached to, as long as they are powering the correct piece of track. Using your first pic as an example, for the BL-TR (Bottom Left - Top Right) leg I'd attach an AR-1 roughly where the tape measure is. For the TL-BR leg I'd do the same thing, mirror image of the first (this is based on the legs being isolated with the plastic joiners at the green lines). Then the AR-1 are powered (input) by what ever is powering the inside track loop, and the output of the AR-1's power the legs of the cross.

- Tim
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